I feel like Macbeth is puting to much trust in Lady Macbeth, she is promising that everything will work out, and in the end she kills herself. Had MAcbeth not trusted her none of these musders would have started and most of the people killed would still be alive.
Whoever trusts the wrong person usually gets killed. Just as Nathan said.Farley
I think that sometimes trust is good and sometimes it is bad. Sometimes it ended up hurting someone when they trusted the wrong person. Like Duncan trusting Macbeth.
Having a trust worthy mentality can be good and bad. It's bed when Duncan trusts Macbeth because he ends up killing him. When Malcom trusts Macduff its a good thing because it helps them defeat Macbeth.Molly S
I agree with Nathan's comment, "If you don't trust anyone, you won't get anywhere." But what is trusting someone.Farley
Ya exactly, with Duncan and Banuqo, they both trusted Macbeth and they got killed in the end as they said in the middleLizB
In the case of a tragedy, it is never wise to trust someone. Everyone who trusted Macbeth, ended getting murdered. This included Duncan, Banquo, and even Macbeth was killed due to his and Lady Macbeth's plan. It is never wise to trust just anyone, friend or foe. One can never really rely on other people.
Macbeth trusted Lady Macbeth because she was his wife but he trusted her too much and eventually went crazy. Macbeth had so much faith in his wife that he did whatever she told him to, even if it affected his own insanity. Lady Macbeth manipulated and took advantage of her husband's trust for her own gain.~SidneyC
Q:Dicuss how each characters ablity to trust effects them during the play.A:I think each different characters abitly to trust was very important to the play. The way the King trusted Macbeth turned out to be a bad thing and Banquo had trusted Macbeth too. They both ended up dead. Also Lady Macbeth had made her husband trust her and go for more power. So in the end the main person whos trust ablity matters was Macbeth's. He decided who lived and who died for most of the play. The scene where Macduff goes to get Malcolm to take over the kingdom is also a trust test. Malcolm tests Macduff and in the end sees who he can trust.Z.W.
In the play Macbeth, trustworthiness is a bad thing to have because everyone who trusted Macbeth eventually had bad things done to them, whether it be murder or just being run out of Scotland. Trusting people in tragedies is never a good idea.Ben E.
Trust is tricky. You shouldn't just trust every random person if you don't really know what they are like on the inside, but you have to trust people in your life, or else it's going to be hard to get anywhere. I think the people in "Macbeth" put their trust in the wrong people and that's where the problems started.
Its all about trusting the right person. Macbeth was the wrong person to trust whoever eneded up trusting him got killed. But people werent nessecarily stupid to trust him because at first he was a trustworthy person untill his greed got to him
I think that trustworthiness is bad because Duncan trusted Macbeth but Macbeth ended up killing Duncan. Also, Macbeth ended up killing many people because he trusted the three witches' prophecies. Macbeth also didn't trust other people, like his best friend Banquo, who ended up being killed by Macbeth due to lack of trust.
I don't think that Macduff is the hero because he still kills someone. Heroes shouldn't kill people.Farley
Macduff and Banquo did not trust what Macbeth said just because he said it. They were the characters who survived. We should be careful of what we believe just because somebody says that it is so.Mayo
trust is a hard thing to come upon, in many ways it can hurt people but at the same time some can benefit. Because Macduff and Banquo did not trust what Macbeth said the survived and Macbeth got what he deserved so in the end it depends on the gut feeling.
It's always good to trust people but make sure it's for the right reasons and don't let them take advantage of you because you trust them.
I think it was bad for characters in Macbeth to have trust because of the different personalities among the characters. The majority of Duncan's court had honesty, which includes Banquo, Lennox, Fleance, and his sons Donnalbin and Malcom. Will A.
Q: discuss how each carecters ability to trust effects them during the playA: I feel that in a way Macbeth died because of his trust toward the witch's proficies. In fact, alot of people died becuase of trust.Cdobbs
I think the hero in Macbeth could be many different people. It could be Macduff because he was the one who ended up killing Macbebth. It also could be Banquo because even Banquo's qhost comes and haunts Macbeth.Molly S
I think trust is a hard issue, because it all depends on the person. if you lie allot people's trust towards you is very bad, but when you tell the truth trust is high. So mabey Macbeth was a trustworthy man, because they believed him until they found out, mabey he lied because he had to, to full fill prophecy
I disagree with matt because it's a shakespearian hero not like superman. nducey
Ususally, I think trusting people is a good thing, but it didn't always work out in the play. Duncan trusted Macbeth, but he ended up killing him and Macbeth trusted Lady Macbeth, but she told him to kill Duncan. He also trusted Macduff, but Macduff killed Macbeth. Tursting people usually works best if that person is trustworthy. If you don't trust people, though, it will do you even less. -Madeline W.
I think a hero within Macbeth was Macduff because he ended Macbeth's terrible oppression on Scotland and murderous atrocities.
In both Lord of the Flies and Macbeth, each person who becomes the leader has a lust for power. As the lust becomes larger, so does the level of insanity because they will go to greater lengths to achieve their goal.Ben E.
Their ambitions were the same they all wanted to be the one in charge. They wanted things to go their way. The strive for power became fatal in both books. None of them realized the consequences or really thought through their actions. L Sexton
Both Macbeth and Jack become very power hungry. Once they get more power they want even more, and they will do anything to get it.
The people who trusted others in this book did not have the best outcome. With each of the men who were murdered they trusted somebody, Macbeth was the main character they trusted. If the characters were not so trusting of others more people might have survived to the end because they would realize more and notice the actions of Macbeth would not produce good outcomes. Victoria N.
In both stories, the characters would fight for the position of the leader. They are similar because they go too far. The characters challenged the system and eventually went insane when they didn't get their way or their plan went awry.
In Macbeth and in Lord of The Flies, in both situations, the power opportunity controls the characters and drives them to do savage outragous things. Jack wanted all the power and to do so he resorted to murder. Macbeth aslo wanted all the power and ended up resorting to murder.Lizb
Lady Macbeth is desperately craving power. After Macbeth becomes the king, she goes crazy and commits sucicide. Jack does the same thign in LOF. He craves power and gets it by trying to scare the other people. Macbeth sort of does this when he kills King Duncan. Also, I feel that craving power is coming because people were scared. Jack was afraid of what was going to happen, so he used his fear to torment others. Lady Macbeth is using her fear fo loseing power to control Macbeth.
Q:Compare the ambitions and drive to power to LOF.A:In both books the main character has a need to be in power. They may not of wanted to kill for their power but in the end that was the only way they had found to become powerful. Jack and Macbeth had been power hungery and had killed many to gain that power. I agree with what Shaffer said about how Rodger was Macbeth because they were lead on by someone else. So now the question is who is the real power? Z.W.
Nate K says:How Lady Macbeth wants to kill everyone to gain power is the same idea with Jack because he tried to kill the pigs thinking that it would grant him power but both rule out of fear rather than true leadership qualities. On the other side Ralph and Macduff are true leaders and are the ones people end up following in the endNate K
I think that Jack and Lady Macbeth are very similar. They both share many traits. They are both very power hungry and neither of them think about the consequences of their actions and people ended up dying in each story.Fontneau
I agree that Macbeth would probably be Roger because Jack always got Roger to do things for him, like tying up Sam and Eric. Lady Macbeth had Macbeth kill king Duncan.
I think that Jack and Lady Macbeth are very similar because they both provoke deceit and sinfulness through persuasion to achieve royalty and leadership.
LOF and Macbeth have the similarity of ambition as a downfall. In Macbeth he goes on a murder spree due to wanting the position of king and turns evil due to his ambition. In LOF however the ambition of Jack's leads the whole group of boys towards savagery.nducey
In both writings, there was peace in the beginning. One event caused this to change. In LOF, this was Jack hunting, and in "Macbeth", this was the witches' prophecy. This caused each character, Jack and Macbeth, to murder and insanity. Even though Macbeth is more like Roger, the outcomes were similar to Jack's. In the end, nothing good came out the insanity, leaving everything distraught. The idea of power was also a cause to this. It shows how a monarchy doesnt work.
Macbeth and Lord of the Flies are related with the idea of insanity. Both demonstrates that if you stray from the order and break the rules of life, things will get out of control. In both books, whoever got in the way was killed. Macbeth wanted to be king, but Duncan was king, similarly to how Simon had the potentail to over throw Jack's power because of his superior brain power and reasoning and he was killed. Piggy stood up to Jack and also ended up being slaughtered.
But jack wasn't the one who murdered piggy--it was rodger. is it possible that rodger may have been useing jack to get power becuase jack was able to get power
Macbeth and Lord of the flies are similar when it comes to power because the Macbeth starts out like hes just a regular warrior who kills for his country, he then becomes a blood thirsty traitor who brutally murders his king and his successor. Just like roger, he starts out quiet and peaceful then he just arrives from no where as jacks assistant and becomes a murderous person as well.
Brandon C post:They both began with a very respectable amount of power but shortly became to greedy. In order to gain more power they both had a kill everyone in their way attitude.
Rodger was like Jacks "henchman" sort of like how Macbeth was Lady Macbeth's. If it weren't for Jack, piggy wouldn't have ended up being killed by Roger.
I think the answer to matt's question would be that Roger would be Macbeth because he was led by Jack to become more powerful. Also, Roger murdered Piggy just like Macbeth killed Duncan and the gaurds. Also, after a while the two got out of hand and the killing spree continued.
I now understand the Macbeth:Lady Macbeth and Roger:Jack relationshipFarley
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Macduff was already in England to get Malcolm to stop MacbethBrandon C
Wat do you understand about that relationship because i aqm stuck on it toPhillip.
Jack in LOF was known by few people but still had a say in many things until Roger went insane and ruled everything, Jack wanted to get back on top but he feels weak, Lady Macbeth was similar to Jack because she started to tell Maceth what to but in the end the roles got switched.Scheer
I dont remember when roger took over.
Well both Macbeth and Jack could have just been laid back and would have had more power than they ended up with because Jack and Ralph were friends in the beginning so he would have gained power from Ralph's friendship and Macbeth's original prophesies would have come true and made him king if he didn't become greedy.
I think that Jack didn't have greed as much as it was a belief that he should be the one in charge, for he had power back before the plane crash. I think that he wanted that power because he truely believed it should be him in charge. He didn't necesarily think that Ralph was doing a bad job, but he looked for Ralph's faults to persuade others into thinking that Ralph was a bad leader.
Oh ok thanks.
I agree with Courtney when she says that Roger might have been controlling Jack. Roger has more power inside of himself and Jack is more of the guy that the choir boys and other people look up to but not the dominating power. Jack is like a puppet to Roger but the other little boys who can't look up for themselves are controlled by Jack. The witches are more like Roger where they control from the shadows and Macbeth is the one who is the powerful one to everyone else like Jack.
The characters from "Macbeth" all have similar characters in LOF. Lady Macbeth and Jack, Macbeth and Roger, Simon and Banquo, and Ralph and Macduff.
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Lady Macbeth becomes overwhelmed with the idea of becoming queen and Jack just wanted to be the boss of everything. The idea becomes so wrapped up in their minds that they go to extremes to get what they want.~SidneyC
Brandon C:He had killed the Thane of Cawdor that betrayed Duncan and he then gained the title of Thane of Cawdor
This is a check to see if mine is workingFarley
It is clear that Roger and Macbeth are similar. They are both driven to do bad things by people who are more driven and power hungry than them.Fontneau
I agree with riley because they gain power by manipulating others beacsue Jack was always pushing Roger to rise higher just like Lady Macbeth did to Duncan.
i think that the when the horses eat each other it symbolizes everything going crazy and abnormal.
Macbeth killing Banquo is resembelent to the 2 horses because they were very close as friends and Macbeth betrayed Banquo.
Death symbolizes the search for power and the path that one takes to become a leader.Fontneau
Greed takes over Macbeth when he kills his best friendFarley
Some symbolism is the blood on macbeth's hand and how he said he couldn't wash himself of it it shows how he was guilty of the murder.
Just testing if this works.Ben E.
I think the two horses eating each other would relate more to Macbeth having Banquo killed because they were like best friends, and for him to have Banquo killed is like the horse eating the other horseLizB
Casey WLady Macbeth drives Macbeth down the road to killing the king and so forth. Roger is like Jacks backbone and even though it doesn't say so, i think he helps drive Jack to mutiny. the interesting thing is that Lady Macbeth doesn't get anything out of it where as Roger gets power and respect for it so what was the point of Lady Macbeth's actioins.Casey Wagenaar
I think that there are more symbols such as the tree branch ant the multiple kings and the horses eating each outher it is to send a message that connects with the story such as the storm like everything among the lines of murder is crazy like a storm.Phillip
Wait that wasn't mattf that was nathand.
I don't understand what Aaron means by Macbeth passing Fleance off.Farley
The two horses eating eachother could be like him destroying himself because the horses are alike and are killing eachother and when Macbeth killed Duncan he also destroyed his own future because if he had just waited he could have become king. Also, like Evan L said how a man killed a man so a horse killed a horse it goes to show how disgusting murder is because when a man kills a man its just an act of violence but when you hear that the horses ate eachother you are revolted.
I feel that all the chaos in the world is not necessarily relating directly to the murder of Duncan. It is showing that everything has gone wrong. The witches have given him a prophecy that will happen on his own. And that Macbeth did not need to change the way events are supposed to happen. Like in a lot of time traveling movies, if you mess up the future bad things can happen. So Macbeth is changing the events meant to happen, so it screws up everything. Riley w
I think that they control death to give themselves power. So death could symbolize power.
i agree with lizz...becuase, for the most part horses are loyal and herd animals...they look out for one another. but when the horse killed the other horse, it was like going against nature.cdobbs
The horses relate to Macbeth and aswell as people today because we all at some point want what others have but sometimes we cant have it and it is sad but true that people do take things to an extreme level that did not have to happen.Scheer
Two characters were talking about the horses eating one another just before they found out about Duncan's death. Before this scene, things were still right in the world to everyone but Macbeth and Lady Macbeth. After this scene, the world goes completely awry and things start to keep going downhill. The two horses refer to insanity and the part of the play that started the craziness.EmilyM
I think that the two horses are similar to Macbeth and Duncan because those two were good friends who got along well until one night Mcbeth decided to kill him just like the horses.Fontneau
I think that symbols are used to help better show the relationship between the elements being symbolized. For example, the stormy, dark night of Duncan's murder shows how there is much sadness in mourning resulting from his death. Also, the horses eating each other show sadness and how Macbeth killing Duncan is like killing someone of your close kin.Mitch A
I think that although Fleance is just a "worm" now he could grow and become a "serpent". The worm is harmless now and he can't do anything now, but if he grows and gains power he could become as dangerous as his father. Molly S
Brandon C:One thing is that every person that Macbeth kills is completely innocent.
Casey W.Macbeth kills his friends because he is paranoid. But I don't think Macbeth kills the right people at the right time. He easily could have gotten rid of the friends and families at better times. He still could have stayed alive and been king had he have done a better job of killing.Casey W.
I agree with Aaron about the horses because you can even compare MAcbeth to LOF in this part when the things that symbolize peace are lost(Simon and Duncan) then the society is chaotic and corrupt.
I agree with shaffer because in the lines among power makes you able to do any thing such as murder or murdering to get power. We all make our own choices and let the power get the best of us.Phillip
I think that the two horses eating each other symbolized that there was anarchy going on and that a murder was just performed. Also, betrayal symbolizes greed from the murderers in the two books, Macbeth and Jack, as we discussed earlier.Will A
I agree with liz also. Macbeth doesnt have a sense of what is moral. That sense is kind of a natural thing that is hard to get rid of. Killing someone of you own kind is like the horses killing eachother.Lsexton
When Macbeth regrets killing King Duncan and Lady Macbeth gets angry, Macbeth doesn't see the one he loved. He saw an angry, posessed, crazy lady that he didn't know.
Brandon C:Once Duncan was murdered that gave Macbeth the power and confident to keep doing it and Lady Macbeth finally realized what it was that they had did and how wrong it was
I think that the witches assurence that 'nobody' could kill him and made him sure of himself, but lady macbeth just hadn't thought of the consiquinces when she was convinceing him to kill duncan.
After Macbeth murdered Duncan, he began feeling very guilty and completely lost it. He became very paranoid and just killed everything that got in his way. Lady Macbeth grows weaker in personality towards the end when she realizes what she did is reality. It finally hits her that she and her husband murdered innocent people. Lady Macbeth realizes that there is no way out and just kills herself.
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Killing? Cookies? That analagy confused me greatlyFarley
After Macbeth had become king he would do anything to stay king. However after the first murder Lady macbeth felt guilty and self-consious.Fontneau
Casey w.macbeth begins his killing streek and he then goes and kills lots more people because he is paranoid. Lady Macbeth Feels the guilt and knows that she has led her and her housband to death which is why she seclouds and kills herself.
But jack murderd to show his power and macbeth murderd to get power will.Phillip
Going for more murders and taking many lives came to lead to Lady Macbeth's personality change. She thought that one murder was not so bad if it came to something good like Macbeth becoming king. Macbeth found his personality changing when he realized everyone didn't respect him.B Haltom
I think that Lady Macbeth never thought ahead far enough to realize the consequences of everything she wanted her husband to do. Macbeth did not realize how close to getting power he starts to believe the prophesies.
I think that Lady Macbeth at first liked the power, but after awhile the guilt started to set in. I think that no matter how evil a person is, they still have some goodness in them and if they do something bad they will some sense of guilt. Also Lady Macbeth is happy with the power that Macbeth has because she's his wife. Macbeth actually has the direct power so he keeps wanting more.Molly S
The prophecies from the witches caused Lady Macbeth to change because they showed her that her husband could be king, which made her think that she must do anything to make sure Macbeth becomes king.Mitch A
Lagy macbeths guilt finally caught up to her. She finally realized what she did. She saw the man she turned her husband in to and she didnt like it. Knowing she had ruined her husbnds life was too much for her to handle.Lsexton
Before the murder, Lady Macbeth only thought about the power she could have after it happened. Macbeth questioned the plan, but after he realizes what he has to do to cover it up. After Duncan's murder, Lady Macbeth was satisfied with her newfound power. She didnt think about anyone else doing the same thing for her. Macbeth, on the other hand, thought that everyone was out to get him, so he thought that he needed to kill everyone.EmilyM
i agree--they were like little children. i think thats a good relation. some learned their lesson, and maybe felt bad about the whole idea, and then others just were ready to do it again.
I think that Shakespeare purposely fades out Lady Macbeth because the main character, Macbeth, no longer worries about his wife because he is so concerned and paranoid about his own situation.
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I think the roles shifted after Macbeth killed Duncan. I think after that incident Macbeth got power hungry and continued to kill. And Lady Macbeth felt guilty because of what she made Macbeth into.
Macbeth and Lady Macbeth's roles definitely reversed. Lady Macbeth started off as the one with the ambition for Macbeth to become king and Macbeth could really care less, he respected Duncan. Then the roles are changed and Macbeth finally realized all of the glory and things he could receive from becoming king, while Lady Macbeth became deathly sick and lost all of the fiery inside her.Will A
Maybe there was someone in the time that he wrote the play that he disliked so he modeled the character Lady Macbeth after that person. I think Lady Macbeth is a tool, or a jumpstart to the killing spree by Macbeth
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i agree, it could easily be intentional on shakespeare's part. i never thought of it that way. cdobbs
I think that Shakespeare wants to change the focus more to Macbeth. Also the story starts becoming so much more complicated that Lady Macbeth doesn't have as big of a role anymore.Molly S
Lady Macbeth came along the lines of driveing macbeth to become king for her own reasons it seems like and would do any thing to get there like minipulating and lieing to her husband.
Macbeth decides to keep out Lady Macbeth of his life because he doesn't want more bad things put in his head like how he is now addicted to murder. Also, Macbeth has better things to do than just listen to what Lady Macbeth had to say.B Haltom
William Shakespeare probably fades out Lady Macbeth towards the end because there isn't much more damage that she can do. She already completely ruined her husband's reputation and he is already about to be executed for the murders.~SidneyC
The power-hungry role affected both characters and showed how Lady Macbeth went insane after figuring out of what she has done.
Shakespeare's idea of drawing Lady Macbeth out of the story definitely had an impact. It made us focus on the greed that Macbeth was gaining.Will A
Lady Macbeth kind of got it started but Macbeth did not need her to go over the edge.
The witches are ultimately responsible for Macbeth's downfall because they placedthe greed in him for the throne.Farley. And the one where i called Lady Macbeth a tool was also Farley
I like emily's point on how Macbeth only concentratrates on who can hurt him because the characters who find how people can help them like Ralph and Macduff succeeed while Macbeth and Jack, who can only concentrate on who will hurt them eventually fail
i feel that banquo's death was his downfall. it was the turning point in his follower's trusts. the murder arroused susspisoin and started the illusions...cdobbs
I think the witches were to blame of Macbet's downfall because if they never would have told Macbeth his prophesy none of the murdering would have happened.LizB
I think that Lady Macbeth is responible for Macbeth's downfall because if she hadn't given him the idea to kill King Duncan in the first place then Macbeth wouldn't have gotten carried away with killing people. Also he wouldn't have gotten everyone to hate him so Macduff wouldn't have chopped off his head.Molly S
I think that lady Macbeth was there to make the story more dramatical and to make the situation between Macbeth and the king riseto wat it was.Phillip
I think the witches were the ones that ultimately caused Macbeth's demise because they had made the prophecy and Macbeth just wanted to fulfill it but he had no idea that it would turn out in this bad of a way.
Is his downfall when he is discovered, or when he becomes evil?
I think that Macbeth eventually causes his own downfall because even though Lady Macbeth challenges his man hood and convinces him to kill the king, Macbeth still has the choice to do the right thing. As Obi-Wan Kenobi once said to Anakin Skywalker,"Your arrogance and lust for power has killed you!"
The arrogance would never had existed if the witches didn't exist!Farley
I believe MAcbeth himself was the reason for his downfall. One can not blame another person for their own doen fall. Mentally, humans are self reliant and should not have people affect their lives. Macbeth chose to murder Duncan, he could have just walked away. He also could have chosen to think lightly of the witches. He allowed Lady Macbeth to make his decisions and ultimately because he did that, he reached his downfall. Clearly it was Macbeth's own fault for his downfall.
Banquo started Macbeth's downfall because Macbeth had to kill him leading to more suspicion on Macbeth. Lady Macbeth also made Macbeth go down because he already had a good piosition with the king and having to murder Duncan made him go for more but with more risks.B Haltom
Macbeth is ulitimatly the reason for his own downfall. He is the one who put that idea into his wife's head in the first place. Nothing would've happened if he would've kept to himslef and silently fumed. He is the sole one who came up with the idea after the prophecy. Other characters infuluenced his mind after he voiced this idea, but nothing would've happened had he dismissed the prophecy right away.EmilyM
Q:WHo is ultimitly resposible for Macbdeth's downfall?A:I blame Macbeth. Macbeth was he own worst enemy. He constatnly was afraid of everyone and stopped wondering who could help him, or tell him what to do. Macbeth's need for power and fear of poeple harming him was his own downfall. In the beginning he was munipulated into starting a series of awful deeds. But all he had been asked to do was kill Duncan. Not Banquo and not mAcduff's family. He had become a monster. And Lady Macbeth had seen this and slowly gone insane watching the one she loved break down. So you cannot blame Lady Macbeth in my opinion. Z.W.
Brandon C:Macbeth wrote Lady Macbeth a letter about the witches prophecy but Lady Macbeth makes the desicion to murder him
I thinks it's when he becomes evil becuase that led to his demise internally so he didn't know what he should do ending up in him hinting at the bad things he had done.
I believe macbeth was a good person who wouldnt have gone out and kill duncan on his own. Lady macbeth was ultimatly the person who caused his downfall. She pushed him to do something he would have never done on the first place. Although macbeth was weak enough to go against his own morals to do what his wife told him to i belive he still wasnt the only one at fault. The prophecy only adds to this problem. It helps LAdy mAcbeths cause but i dont feel that it was the only reason. I think if Lady MAcbeth wouldnt have suggested the killing of duncan Macabeth wouldnt have chossen that way to get powerLSexton
I think it might have crossed Macbeth's mind to kill King Duncan, but I don't think he was seriously thinking about it until Lady Macbeth convinced him to do it.Molly S
I don't think that Macbeth would've killed Duncan if Lady Macbeth hadn't told him to. I think that he would've just let him die on his own, then he would be king. He might have thought about killing him, but Lady Macbeth says he was a good-hearted man (before the murders) and he would have thought about the consequences more than Lady Macbeth did.(Madeline W.)
i think that the person responsible for Macbeths ultimate demise is he himself, because towards the end the only person he had left was himself. His wife was moving away from him because of his thirst for blood and everyone else is in terror because of him. He thinks hes not going to die and puts his life on the phrophecy. He thinks he wont die, even though the prophecy is true, he doesnt believe it. This leads to his head being seperated from his body and him meeting his demise.
If the Witches didnt say that macbeth was going to be king this would of never happened but at the same time it was up to macbeth to decide wat that was. i mean he cuold of waited but he told himself that he was going to murder all the people that he did.Phillip
It was Lady Macbeth put the crime in Macbeth's mind for her satisfaction. Macbeth thought it was a bad idea because of the risk of getting caught and punished. It would of never crossed his mind if it were not for Lady Macbeth.B Haltom
oh, i have a comment on nate's comment at 10.16...Macbeth killed of Macduff's family (who was close and most trusted) kind of like it was Jack (and the chant) who killed Ralph's closest group/friends.On that point...the wild dance/chant thing that went on after every killing, getting more and more outta control, is very similar to how Macbeth was getting more and more insaine and out of control with every killing. so, in a way, did the chant represent insainity??cdobbs
In a way Lady Macbeth is reponsible because Macbeth would not have murdered Duncan in the beginning without her and that started the whole murdering snowball. Macbeth is also responsible because after Duncan's murder he gets power hungry and wants to make sure that no one will take his throne away from him.Emily K.
Casey W.Lady Macbeth didn't see her actions and the future consequences before hands. But maybe she did because I believe that she was a wicth. Because we never see the witches again after Lady Macbeths death. Also Lady Macbeth seems to see in the future. Casey w
what i dont understand is how can somebody pursade somebody else to do something so awful as Lady Macbeth convinced Macbeth to kill duncan?cdobbs
It had always been Lady macbeth's idea to kill King Duncan. But she had never intended to have Banquo killed. Or Macduffs family. These people had been her close friends and the idea of killing them was not her idea. It was Macbeth becoming a monster that had killed these inoccent people. In the end I had to wonder if Macbeth had not killed King Duncan what would of happened? Would he of become King eventually? Or would Macbeth of thought of killing the King without Lady Macbeth's help?Z.W.
Lady Macbeth pitched in to Macbeth's downfall the most. Macbeth would have never really thought about backstabbing his friend and take the thrown if it weren't for the persuasion from Lady Macbeth. He then never looked back and kept killing those threatening the position of his throne.Will A
I think it was no one persons fault. I Think LAdy Macbeth, Macbeth and the prophecy are all to blame.Lsexton
I think that Macbeth's downfall could have been from power and not necessarily from a specific person.Molly S
i do not agree with you emily because it was macbeths choice to kill him and the others she only wanted it to be so she could have her own satisfaction.Phillip
How does Lady Macbeth see in the future casey?
Maybe a woman manipulated Shakespeare in his life so he gave Lady Macbeth more power to show people that this could happen.
Macbeth is just easily manipulated and Lady Macbeth knew that because she is married to him.B Haltom
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I do think that women have always has the power to control a man through questioning their man's man hood. I would agree with Mrs. Moritz, that Shakespear was beyond his time, by showing a woman's tru control through Lady Macbeth.
Lady Macbeth's power was in her control over Macbeth. Being able to control things is power.
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I feel Lady Macbeth took power, and abused it. She betrayed her husband by taking the care that he had for her, and used it for greed and murder. He basically only used her for her power. Macbeth may have used this to make a point that women should not be in control because these kind of things will happen.
i agree with zoe becuase istnt that something that was going on in that time? the whole how much rights do we give to women, becuase how much can women retain or whatnot...cdobbs
I think that Shakespeare was trying to make a statement that women do have power but yo should not let them manipulate you because they waill abuse the power.Fontneau
he could have shown that they shouldn't give women power, but he also shows that Macbeth shouldn't have power and he's a man. Also Macbeth is still crazy with power at the end, but Lady Macbeth actually starts to feel guilty. In the end Lady Macbeth is a better person then Macbeth.
Macbeth's downfall is at the fault of a couple of people. First Macbeth, because he is too in need of power and wants everything going his way. If he took it slow and didn't even murder Duncan in the first place then he might become king later on but not kill people in the process. Macbeth went downhill thinking of the murders he committed even if he didn't know it, that was bringing him down. Lady Macbeth also brings Macbeth to his downfall by building him up too much and trying to convince him he can commit a murder. The witches also build him up too much and tell him he can be great. In the end after Macbeth has been built up so much he creates his downfall.
I think that some girls can't stand to see others with what they want so that is when they lash out.Ben E.
I think that Lady Macbeth was not used to having so much power and she did not know how to use it correctly.
I agree with Brandon on how girls definitely do have a verbal impact. Though their actions may not be strong, they make it up with their harmful or "smart-allik" words. They can be very degrading to the receiver of them.Will A
Umm I dont think Lady Macbeth is a witch Casey because she is surprised when she reads the letter and she would already have known about the information before and also if she could see into the future then why would she have Macbeth kill Duncan if she knew she would go crazy and Macbeth's head would end up chopped off.
Lady Macbeth wanted to show her power by becoming king and convincing Macbeth to go for the spot as king. She wanted to show men that women could become powerful.B Haltom
I agree with bens above comment. This links back to the story with the two doors about the lady and the lion.Fontneau
I think that at the beggining Lady Macbeth is one of the most important things in Macbeth's life, but at the end power is more important, so he starts ignoring Lady Macbeth more.
It makes me wonder what the first thing was that ever gave Lady Macbeth the idea to kill? I believe it was the letter that gave the beinning idea.Z.W.
Woman have had power before like queen mary who was around before this play was written. she was queen starting in 1553.duceyn
I agree with Will.Ben E.
The sins that he commited did become rather "deadly".Farley
Macbeth was never envious. I said this earlier in the conversation.Farley
Macbeth follows Lady Macbeth because of his lust!!!
I think that he envied Banquo because Macbeth's was a fruitless crown and Banquo's sons would have the chance to keep the crown in their family.Ben E.
Women can convince people to do things, and Macbeth valued her opinions so he listened to her. Once Macbeth realized he could murder people on his own he did not need Lady Macbeth's opinion. She was the driving force to convince him to be King but lost her power when suddenly Macbeth did not need to be told or encouraged to do anything that he already did on his own.
Vengeance is a big thing in Macbeth because MacDuff seeks out to kill Macbeth because he killed his entire family. Lady Macbeth sins with sloth because she is being lazy and making her husband doing all her work for her. Macbeth envied Duncan with the position of being king.~SidneyC
Evan is right. Lust doesn't have to be towards a personFarley
The seven deadly sins were a bit of a theme, however; it was more like Macbeth represented anormal person who embraced all seven of the sins and how everyone in Scotland had to rise up against him to overcome Macbeth. Shakepeare could have written this as hope that the sins can be overcome.Emily K.